lot of speculation about it. what was the truth? >> they did offer jack the job. why would he be in hand of a contract, the contract wasn't signed, but also, you know that you go and do a job and you sign the contract halfway through. i worked for this year for nbc for two months without signing a contract. that comes after. he was in hand of a contract. two days before he was due to start, they called and said it was too much of a responsibility, jack was too much, so no. but the thing was, i can understand what they were saying. it was the way that they did it. it was just the way they did it. and then they offered him well, what do you want, money, we'll pay you. no, he doesn't want money. he wants his dignity, he wants his pride. he could do this. but then as it happens, the way the show turned out, it had a curse on it. the show did terrible, people didn't like it, it was so, you know -- >> karma.